Thursday, July 21, 2011

Revisiting Trade Scenarios

Last week, we discussed some potential trade acquistions, but got sidetracked by our traditional internet peeing contest. Yesterday, Buster Olney ran a piece for ESPN in which he quoted the Lying Liar as stating that the Pirates could possibly, potentially, perhaps, at some point, maybe, if the stars align, at the right price, if the timing is good, if the offer is great, if the temperature in hell dips a few degrees, may consider probably adding something to the current team. Some people took this as Coonelly committing to something. Most took it as a whole bunch of nothing and I happen to agree that it was nothing more than some fluff spread out over a few paragraphs.

The Lying Liar did note that attendance is indeed up, and that gives us flexibility to be somewhat possibly, potentially, slightly likely to consider the thought of looking into the idea of evaluating the reality of thinking about pondering making a move. So the FO got their wish, the fans are showing in droves, alleviating them from having to take any financial risk to win.

So now that is have gotten only a few hundred miles off track, let's talk about trades. I will put a list of players below that have been discussed and give my 2 cents while soliciting all of your opinions, as well.

1.) Carlos Beltran- RF- Mets. I like the idea if the Mets are willing to either eat some of his salary or take less if the Bucs take the whole thing (LOL). Problem is simple: if the asking price for Beltran is too high for the Red Sox, it's WAY too high for the Bucs.

Potential value: 9/10. Good power, some speed, switch hitter who drives in runs and hits for average. A little crazy, but thats okay.

Likelihood of Acquring Beltran: 0.5/10. Not gonna happen.

2.) Carlso Pena- 1B- Cubs. Great power, low average. Good OBP for a free swinger. K's a lot, walks a lot. Far more affordable than Beltran.

Potential value: 7/10. Great power and can take advantage of short RF.

Likelihood of Acquiring Pena: 3/10. "Not willing to mortgage future" ( actually means not willing to spend money)


3.) Hunter Pence- RF- Astros. Hits for average and some power, drives in runs, good career #'s at PNC park. Decent defesne and a good arm. Good speed, can steal bases. Affordable with a couple of arbitration years left. Will likely see a nice raise after 2011.

Potential Value: 8/10. Excellent RH stick. Only 28 and under control for a few more years if the Bucs are willing to pay him (ROTFLMFA0)

Likelihood of Acquiring Pence: 1/10.

4.) Josh Willingham- OF/1B- A's. Solid RH stick. Average isn't great, but good with RISP. Some power and good for driving in runs as well as affordable.

Potential Value: 6/10

Likelihood of Acquiring Willingham: 5/10

These are 4 examples of names we've either heard or discussed. Feel free to add more and give your opinions of these playesr as well. Also, Brandon Inge was DFA'd by the Tigers. That is the kind of deal the FO is looking for............................

Spellcheck didn't take, so there are likely numerous errors.

7 comments:

  1. I think Pena would be the most likely acquisition. I don't see the point of Willingham and with Beltran being the #1 player on the market I'd be stunned if the Pirates, who are a few players away from truly contending, sold the farm for him (Mets are saying they'd rather pay his salary and get a haul of high-end talent than let a team pay him the rest of the year).

    Pence would be nice but I agree that the Pirates don't likely have the horses to win the race for him. He's not worth 2 of your top 3-5 prospects when prospects 5-15 are questionable to ever make the majors, let alone become impact players.

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  2. So if we aren't quite at the point of contending now, don't have the organizational depth to trade some prospects to get someone who can help, and won't/ can't afford anyone anyway, what is the point?

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  3. Burress:

    see cash register/ profit.

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  4. I have a feeling that if you want the Pirates to acquire a really good established major league player in trade, you are going to be very disappointed.

    I have been hearing too many rumors that the Pirates don't want to spend money or don't want to give up any grade A or B prospects. We will be told it wasn't the right time. We have done our part FC, attendance has increased, will you do your part? I have my doubts.

    If the Pirates essentially do nothing, will more people finally turn on this front office or will they defend them to the end?

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  5. EXACTLY!!

    But people are so quick to deny that. Truth is this simple: the All Star break was a great time to get a deal in place. Knowing the tough stretch of road ahead, we need that bat. The pitchers can't be expected to throw a shutout EVERY GAME.

    I have also been hearing they aren't going to be taking on any significant salary. Then they don't want to mortgage the future. Then there is nobody available. Then they missed an offer because the dog was having kittens.

    It's going to be this way forever.

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  6. Then why do they ever speak in the first place??

    I mean if you cant/wont do the right thing, why not just shut up??

    I just dont understand........

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  7. I think the question becomes how much is too much to give up. I know some people think that is irrelevant, but I think that is a little short-sighted.
    Dog

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